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Mike007

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BTW is the AUlogo pack on TTD never getting updated again?
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keith_leitch

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I think DMC said that he is working on an update. Even with the tools he's developed, it takes awhile, especially for a busy man.
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Mike007

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I think DMC said that he is working on an update. Even with the tools he's developed, it takes awhile, especially for a busy man.


I understand that but the logo pack on TTD hasn't been updated in forever. The updated LIL files posted in the forums are great for people who know how to use FTP but for those who don't, TTD is their only option.
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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All of us volunteer our time on the forum, answering questions, creating TAPs or whatever.

The delay was because I was actually giving some thought as to how to solve your "Shepparton" problem.  I realised that given that your mother's LIL has already been built using the old channel names, it is probably impossible for me to match the old names (in the LIL) to the file names and therefore guarantee a match.

I thought that I had written a logo delivery TAP at some stage.  I was going to have a look at that and perhaps see if I could add a "nuke and rebuild LIL" menu option as part of that TAP.  There would be one additional step to the existing logo process, but I think that it would provide a better outcome.
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Mike007

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I thought that I had written a logo delivery TAP at some stage.

Yes that's the TAP I was talking about, I originally posted the question in the Topfield forum where that TAP is but I was advised to post in here.
Sorry if it seems like I was rushing you, that's not the case at all. I really appreciate all the help I've been given over the years by everyone, especially you.
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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To be clear, you are referring to this post from the old forum back in May 2016:

https://topfield.forumchitchat.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1292411419&postcount=78&forum=375589

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Originally Posted by DeltaMikeCharlie
Here is a TAP to install channel logos.

Users can copy the TAP from a thumb drive to the PVR and then execute the TAP without needing FTP.

I have done limited testing, so proceed at your own risk.  Testing volunteers welcome.

It installs SmartEPG logos, WebControl logos and logos for TMSTimer/TMSArchive/AutoScheduler.

It gives a choice of Grey or White logos, but these only matter for TMSTimer/TMSArchive/AutoScheduler.

This TAP was delivered via USB drive and to be best of my recollection never via TTD.  Can your mother manage to copy a TAP from a USB drive to the PVR?

If I put it on TTD, will she be able to run the TAP once downloaded to install the logos?
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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I just read your tutorial on using WebControl, I'd have more hope teaching her how to use FTP lol

I'm not sure what tutorial you are referring to.  Once loaded via TTD, all you need is a browser to control your PVR.
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Mike007

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I'm not sure what tutorial you are referring to.  Once loaded via TTD, all you need is a browser to control your PVR.

Sorry we've got two different convos crossing over lol
Yes that's the TAP I used way back then you taught me how to change the names using FTP to make the logos work for my region(Gippsland).
My mum is in the Shepparton region and I had modified the logos to work for her before she took the toppy but she has since reset to factory and lost the lot, don't ask lol
She knows how to use TTD now, that's how she got some of the logos back but obviously not the Shepparton ones.
I hope this has cleared it up.
Cheers
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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OK, so the current TTD AU logos are from 2014.  When I update AULogos.tap, I will also post it on TTD.

What other TAPs does your mother use?
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Mike007

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OK, so the current TTD AU logos are from 2014.  When I update AULogos.tap, I will also post it on TTD.

What other TAPs does your mother use?

Thanks for that mate. Shes got no other TAPs at the moment, I only just walked her through putting TTD on from a usb so she could get SmartEPG and the logo pack.
Thanks again.
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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I have investigated the logo installation TAP and would like opinions on the following suggestion.

The existing installation screen is as follows:

AULogos.png

I propose that I add another button.  The label of the button will reflect what will happen and pressing it will toggle between "Existing Logos will be Reset" and "Existing Logos will be Preserved".

"Reset" will rename the LIL file (appending the current date and time) and "Preserve" will not.

I have trouble with the wording: 1) It is long; and 2) It is potentially ambiguous.

Perhaps "Reset logo settings" could be better.

Perhaps just "Logo Settings" and then have another line of test somewhere that talks about "Preserve" and "Reset".

I will not play around with the way that TAP navigation works because it is designed not to need FirmwareTMS.dat or any other means of recognising specific models (and therefore RCU codes).  It only uses generic functions.  I can't use any of the coloured RCU buttons either, because these can change between models.  The TAP can also be controlled by only using the front panel buttons on the PVR.

Comments welcome.

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Mike007

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What about 'Reinstall Logos' and 'Update Logos'?
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DeltaMikeCharlie

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Yes, but the LIL is the map between the channel name and the logo image, not the image itself.  This TAP is always going to "Reinstall Logos", as in the image files.  Perhaps "Reinitialise Logos" would be more meaningful.

Deleting the LIL will then force the user into remapping the channel to the logo image based on its (potentially new) name.
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Mike007

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Gotcha. Won't the new LIL have not only the new channel names but still have all previous names? As in all the logos that were already working will still work? Why would anyone want to "preserve"? Unless it's for the people you mentioned that have modified their LIL themselves? And if that's the case why would they want to use this TAP?
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IanL-S

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I suspect backward comparability may require old names and logos to be retained as the name is embedded in the *.inf file for each recording. I have some very old recordings that have old LCN names.

Ian
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