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SKaVeN

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Hello all,

I'm getting a 2460 this week and have decided a wireless Ethernet bridge would be my best option for networking, but I am having nothing but frustration trying to find one that will work.

I found one on eBay, the eBayer I whom purchased the PVR from thought it would work, but the one selling it said it would not.

If anyone can help my find one, it would be very much appreciated.  [smile]
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davidmorr

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If you are only going to use it for software updates or things you do not do very often, as I think you said elsewhere, why not just get an Ethernet cable long enough to stretch from the Toppy to the router? I used a 10m cable for a while before I got my home cabled up.
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SKaVeN

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I did say that.  But, since then, I've read up on it and I am intrigued, so may want to use it more than I originally anticipated.  Seeing as the router an PVR are at opposite ends of the house, a cable would be impractical.
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IanL-S

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Not sure why there should be any difficulty with generic Ethernet bridge. I used one for several years between the sun room and the router (a distance of only about 10 feet). The toppy connects to the bridge by Ethernet cable and then the bridge connects to the router by wifi. The only I can think of would related to power failures where the bridge did not manage to negotiate a connection to the router before the Toppy finished booting, meaning no internet access - this can happen when you use a wifi dongle, not sure if the Toppy firmware loses the plot if the Ethernet connection is not established - I think IceTV does not work, so a reboot is needed.

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SKaVeN

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To be honest, until a few days ago, I didn't even know such a thing existed.  If they're designed to work the same way as a Ethernet cable, I can't see what the difference between them (in terms of compatibility) would be either).

The one I was thinking about getting was this one:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282742287704?ViewItem=&item=282742287704

The place from whom I'me buying the PVR (i.e. fixmydata) said they thought it would be okay, but advised me to check with the seller (I Chinese company, I think).  When I asked the seller, they said it wouldn't work with a Topfield TRF-2640.

The PVR will probably arrived tomorrow, and I still haven't sorted out this out.  Confused and frustrated.

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davidmorr

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This does not look to be as simple as plugging two of them in to two Ethernet ports. This page is the technical description:

http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=282742287704&t=1536553469000&tid=-1&category=44995&seller=koala-ok&excSoj=1&excTrk=1&lsite=15&ittenable=false&domain=ebay.com.au&descgauge=1&cspheader=1&oneClk=1&secureDesc=0

Firstly, it claims to do gigabit ethernet. For a device costing $3.50, that seems unlikely.

It seems to require a USB port as well as Ethernet. Maybe the USB is to power the device? Can the Toppy put out enough power for that? Do you even have a spare USB port on the toppy and the router?

In one place it says it uses wireless 11g which maxes out at 17Mbps iirc. But elsewhere it says 11n which goes up to 150Mbps. And elsewhere it says maximum transmission speed is 750M - but of what?

It says: LAN Ports :15 ???????

For $3.50, have fun, but do not be surprised if it doesn't work!

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SKaVeN

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So sorry.

This is actually the one I meant to link (that fixmydata said would be okay but the seller said it wouldn't):

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VAP11G-300-Wireless-Bridge-Cable-Convert-RJ45-Ethernet-Port-to-Wireless-WiFi-LOT/282742287704?hash=item41d4c0ed58:m:mHp8ChdqWGCqr7-bru-HDQw&var=582009104553

More expensive but seems to be the same.

Yes, I do have the available USB port.  

It's powerful enough to run a dongle in the USB port.  Would the bridge need that much more power?
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AQUAR

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USB 2.0 plug for power supply suggests that it doesn't need much.  
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IanL-S

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I can understand why doubt was expressed about this sort of device working with a Toppy. The USB port on Linux Toppys complies with the Laptop version of the USB 2 standard, and passes lower power to connected devices.

All one could do would be to buy it and see if it works.

If you have an old router around you may be able to put it into bridge mode and use it instead. (And yet, I have a draw with some I picked up cheap - $5 each; 4 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports and wireless a/b/n (no ac).

Ian
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AQUAR

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You can always supply the 5 volts from a 1A power pack if the toppy can't cut the muster.
Personally and IMHO, for the odd occasion that you really want to connect a toppy to a pc, I would just walk the thing over to my pc. 
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SKaVeN

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I just set it with with an Ethernet cable, to see if it works, and it doesn't look like it's worth the bother.

I activated the connection an it said 100% signal strength.

There's nothing about IceTV in the manual, but all it seems to do is remove all the programme information from the EPG.

When I go to ENTERTAINMENT, there is no ShoutCast, YouTube, or Weather to click.  I tried clicking PORTAL which always says the web browser needs updating and the freezes up the unit - nothing saying anything about updating the browser.  The TV programme is still runs but none of the remote buttons work, so I have to restart the unit.
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IanL-S

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Those functions all depend on being able to contact the Topfield Server in Korea which was decommissioned some years ago. ShoutCast, YouTube, or Weather are part of the portal win the 2.#.# firmware.

For IceTV to populate the EPG you need an IceTV subscription. You can sign up for a trial subscription (1 month) on the IceTV www site. IceTV allows you to remotely set and monitor recordings; it supports series recording and allows you to select first runs or first run + repeats.

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SKaVeN

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Yeah, I Googled IceTV and found out it's a pay service, so that was the end of that!  The free EPG is more than adequate.  

If there are to be no more firmware updates, and all the other services are no more, then I really don't see there's any point in being able to connect it, anyway...
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SKaVeN

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Okay, if there's not going to be any more firmware updates, and the internet features are gone, apart from home/internal networking, is there still any point in having  a connection...?  [confused]
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AQUAR

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Already mentioned, on the odd occasion when you want to transfer recordings to your PC via an Ethernet connection (walk the PVR over to your PC!).
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